Bowyer Ring Fight on Thursday the 9th | Clan of the Angry Monkey (FFXI)

Cancelled

Submitted by Tamara on Wed, 03/08/2006 - 23:25.

Well this BCNM (even though there is no burning circle) is Cancelled because I was hoping for a comment by Meretrix by now and there is no such.

Also two great assets (Cyclonus and Maior) cannot attend.

So that is it for me for this week - I am busy Friday night onwards. I'll leave it to someone else to schedule this fight.

Nevermind

Submitted by cyclonus on Tue, 03/07/2006 - 16:35.

I have a firm recruiting event that night, I'm out, sorry!

Bah!

Submitted by sam on Tue, 03/07/2006 - 21:05.

You know what, this post reminded me I should check my schedule as well...

Thursday night is out for me as well as my wife has some people coming over for dinner :-(

Vis Maior's Journeys
http://maior.samhart.net/

count me in

Submitted by rooster on Tue, 03/07/2006 - 16:05.

Thersites can bring RNG, WAR, or NIN.
I can start playing by 6:30 MST on Thursday.
I have done all the preliminary quests.

Regarding strategy, I'm willing to try anything. But if theres a good chance of dying I would rather bring my warrior or ninja. lol

Jobs

Submitted by sam on Tue, 03/07/2006 - 16:31.

If we do my strategy: We want your RNG :-D

If we do their strategy: We want your WAR (and you will probably die)

May die either way, but your EXP loss should be minor. I lost 400 EXP after dying twice in the battle.

The unfortunate thing is this is a BCNM, not an ENM, so you will get a level 40-capped EXP loss.

Vis Maior's Journeys

http://maior.samhart.net/

On Strat

Submitted by sam on Tue, 03/07/2006 - 14:39.

I have to be totally honest here, but I really disagree with Trix and your strategy.

I don't think we should try to just "ride out" the DRK's 2 hour attack. All that VIT you're going to be getting from a Galka tank with VIT rings is just going to supply more HP for the Moblin's 2 hour to drain.

What I think we should do, and in talking with people who've done this it seems this is the best way to go, is to go in DD heavy and smash the crap out of the DRK before he even gets a chance to 2 hour.

Basically, a very similar set up as last time, but more emphasis on damage:
* PLD tank (mainly for invincible during Blood Weapon)
* MNK (2 hour baby)
* THF/WAR (back-up tank, perfect dodge, during Blood Weapon)
* BLM or SMN
* BLM or SMN (preferably someone nuke-happy)
* WHM

This time, everyone should have their 2 hour ready. The MNK and one nuker should 2 hour at start to try and kill him off. By this point, he will likely 2 hour, during which time the PLD should go Invincible and voke/flash/cure like mad to hold hate. If the PLD's 2 hour wares, the THF should 2 hour and voke/SATA like crazy to hold hate.

Somewhere along the way, the last nuker should use their 2 hour to destroy the Moblin.

Basically, from everything I've read and from everyone I've talked to, trying to ride this out with an insanely tough tank will not work. It seems the smarter way to do it is to nuke the crap out of him and kill him as quickly as possible.

Vis Maior's Journeys
http://maior.samhart.net/

Frelling A

Submitted by raprot on Wed, 03/08/2006 - 23:23.

I have to say that lately my name has been bantered around quite a bit. I originally rather liked it. Being noticed is usually a good thing, especially for a player that rarely gets on. Nonetheless I get distraught when my name is sullied without proper understanding of the situation. Something which Sam should have known after speaking with me the same day in IRC.

First off, I'll agree, I did come up with that plan. After having taken a full PT into the fight, attempting to do the DD offensive, and having everyone die. My second attempt at strategy fell to killing off the Clergymen who (to my understanding) were healing the DRK fast enough to make our efforts futile. In retrospect it wasn't just the healing but also the DRK's 2-hour which I had little knowledge of, to my embarrassment. Both of these strategies are posted online and both seemed reasonable options until after we tried them. Also understand that, as far as I know, only the RDMs used their two hours. The MNK and PLD did not two hour which could have really helped in the fight. I would like to write these off as learning experiences. None of us were all too awake and we were going in with no Clan experience. Shit happens and we learn and educate ourselves.

I would like to say that I originally planned on a DD offensive and had always thought fucking with the Clergymen was a useless expenditure. One of my mistakes was casting RDMs as damage dealers (having mage and meelee) when a BLM can nuke a whole lot better. Keep in mind that I was dealing with a small group, with limited jobs, on the fly, very late in the night. I did the best I could.

Therefore, when Sam proposed this strategy again the following day on IRC, but with a better job line-up, the use of 2-hours, and having cleared up the "we'll have to do it multiple times, for each player" myth, I completely agreed. I want to go ahead with this plan. Sam also had particular people in mind who have these jobs. I also agreed to those choices. In the future I think we may be more flexible with what jobs can come, but I'd like to see a victory first and prove that this can be done.

In conclusion, I do not forsee this Thursday happening. While we fine tune the particulars of this fight I would prefer having Maior, Cyc, Tam, Moggle, and Thirsty go. Thirsty will be using RNG and taking a BLM's position in Sam's strategy. Since all of us were present and available last Sunday, I propose we keep the Depths BCNM to this day. This Sunday, March 12th is available on the calendar. What do the five of you think about 3pm EST?

Mithra

I am nuke happy

Submitted by cyclonus on Tue, 03/07/2006 - 14:45.

In reading various posts, I agree with Sam's strategy.

It seems like we would have the firepower to pull it off.

I can bring BLM BTW.