Tha MonkeyClan of the Angry Monkey (FFXI)
FFXI PvP
Submitted by Unst on Thu, 06/15/2006 - 03:39.

Alright, so a few of us have been pretty psyched up lately for some pvp action and have been considering our options :D
There has been little enthusiasm so far, hopefully mabye this will change ^^
So, there are Ballista, private (diorama/abdhjalis~ ghelshba and pungorungoro(sp?) island) Ballista, and Brenner.
We havn't decided on a date or time so far, so if you have any suggestions please post, we also don't want any conflicts with other events.
Also if you are interrested in PvP reply and we can start to set somethign set up ^_^;
If anyone would like to do the private ballista we are going to need someone with ballista points to sign us up.
Heres some links that explain things like getting ur liscence which i remember somebody mentioning that they did not have >< and the mysterious "flammen-brenner" only the arcane milo knows about >_>

http://www.totalffxi.net/100.html (for getting the liscense and basic info)

http://www.playonline.com/pcd/update/ff11us/20060221ALyQT2/detail.html
(very interresting brenner info)

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/information/060210.html (the official POL brenner info)

I would honestly like to do all of them so tell me if you're interrested :D
~ i have not done any pvp in ffxi yet but am very experienced in WoW battlegrounds, even though i doubt its similar, pvp is pvp :)
Also sorry i dont know how to make actual links.

Size matters

As far as tactics, they're ALWAYS going to change ><. You have to think on your feet!
Many times if the teams are small (2v2), then you should really ignore the other them and hope they try to attack you basically u keep lowering the brenner and postens HP and coming back with full hp and MP, while the team attacking you is slowly defeated, and finally kill the brenner. Sprint to the brenner you are tryign to kill after you die. Many times durng the middle of this the other team will go attack one of your brenners while ur and ur teammate are reviving, perfect! Use this chance to finish the brenner, have one person run the flame back to ur dead brenner and the other protect you or protect you brenner, when you have both flames then go protect ur attacked brenner, ur posten should have gotten one of their men down to 50% finish him and the other teammate off! now you are ready to protect your own brenners. Set one man at each brenner and call for help if u see them approaching, destroy the enemy and you shall be victorious within a few minutes!
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For teams of 3 or more, i would recommend splitting up or staying together. Heres what i mean, if ur goign to stick together, stick together focus on one target at a time and be methodic about it! If your going to split up, have the dd go for an open brenner and defeat the posten. While this is happenning have the other person, say the one with more hp kill the enemy and protect you brenner luring them to you brenner if they are not already there. Try to keep them away from the dd! When the dd kills the posten, the other person should leave the enemy to kill you own brenner this is ok, since he will then procede to attacking and killing the brenner with the dd! From here the brenner you are attacking should die first since the dd will have started on him and there will be no posten, hapily the posten will be wearing down your opponents at your brenner, when u defeat the brenner again have one run and one stun, bind atatckers or go defend ur posten. Remember, if you are in a winning position, and there are no more brenenrs to take, protect them!
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Take out BLMs FIRST! the main thing about blms is they can quickly take out a posten on their own (or the posten take them out quickly...they hit hard, ive been one shotted)and allow others to come to their aid and defeat a brenner easily.
Silence RDMs and BLUs
I would consider SMNs sappers also, sappers are what i would say the most important, they can solo a brenner easily, PUPs/BSTs/SMNs/DRGs(i have yet to see a drg or pup)and take out its posten in the process.
I can attest to WHMs and MNKs being the most annoying, they really are >_>
these are ONLY cookie cutter strategies(for ideal situations), make your own , but stick to them, remember your strategy is only good as long as the teams stay the same! :P you may need to tweak them each match!

match scheduled

Fathers day @ 6:45 EDT(EST), bad timing we know :P may be at 9 or 11 depending on participation and general opinion, you dont have to stay for every match, it coincides with alot of ppls dinnertimes sorry if worse come to worse will reschedule for same night starting at 8:45 as long as noone else has scheduled it.

so far it is a 50 cap! tell me if u want a later match to be lower sorry no higher im only 51! :P

FUCKING SWEET... NO WAIT?!?

I'm arcane... awsomness! no wait that sucks, that meand DRK can intimidate me ; ;

If you guys want i can post what all i have found out thus far about Brenner since there isn't a Brenner section, and it can be quite confusing your first time in.

Maybe after i get back tomarrow i'll start making my book sections...

Brenner
Crafting Cophendum
MMORP slang Referance. (for newer member of clan am)

well lata

PvP

Can't say I've evern been to interested in it. PvP with strangers is tedium beyond tedium. PvP with friends is fun, but, meh.

We actually had a period in 2005 where we were doing Ballistas as a clan almost weekly. We had a few with really good turn out that were fun, but for the most part they kind of sucked (IMHO).

Now, Brenner or some of the private Ballistas would be fun as clan events. If people were interested it would prove fun. Again, though, I'd rather go up against friends than strangers. Give someone anonymity and they generally become assholes.

Vis Maior's Journeys
http://maior.samhart.net/

Ballista is loads of fun. I



Ballista is loads of fun. I prefere less than 10 vs 10 battles because of the huge amounts of lag caused by more people.


I've not read anything about brenner yet, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to try. Either case, sign me up ^^

^^

It would be great if we could actually get 10v10 though :)
Also Maior, i agree because its just more fun when you actually know the people but i dont know if you or anyone else still has ballista points to set up an event in ghelshba.
Also for brenner, you do NOT need a liscense to participate and according to one of those sites above you can have 1v1 to 72v72 or w/e you want and can set up the match the day of so mabye some of us can check it out before we set up an actual event.

Ballista points

I'm sure I have the points, I could probably set it up.

Last year we did a buttload of these.

Vis Maior's Journeys
http://maior.samhart.net/

^^

sounds great i would also like to try this, but i must say if you doubt pvp you have to try flammen-brenner, it is alot of fun :) for anyone whos played GWs, the map reminds you alot of that game(xilldon) but the stlye of play is way different just the same kind of map, you know the 4v4 one in the tropical area where u go in the middle up that cliff or u can go under it? its liek am uch larger version with no ups or downs :P .....nvm >_>

ooo

I heard you guys did one today anyways that makes me wanna play GW XD~ So ya the next one just let me when when your goind XD i wanna go lol

Putnam county rockz!!1!

Actually, it sucks. But that's not the point of my post...

I'd love to get my ass-kicked in PvP; I also do not have a license (let the bitching and moaning begin!).

However, if there is an interest, I'll work on getting the license and let's give this a shot!

I'm up for this any timeXD

Befor I left I liked to do a Ballista now and then. Then I come back and every Ballista i show up to is canceled. So I'm up for a PvP anyday, gimme time and place and ill show up :p

my mistake

actually brenner is the same as abdjhalis puronguoro (sp...) which is just where it is played.

(All RIGHT!)

So, me Milo and Golagres did some brenner today. Its definatly worth setting up some ls matches IMHO. We did 3v3 which was great but i think 5v5+ would be alot better mabye then we can try the A set up(which opens the map up alot more, adding more flammes)
the point of the game is the *kill* the flammes(look like woodstoves) and then click on them to take their flames, and go back, and light your unlit flamme.

Now the island is ridiculously big for 3v3 and i dont think we got past the northern tip but i was wandering around and ive now explored the whole island, and i <3 the tiny place at the bottom but w/e lol. So, if we could set up a few matches for this sunday if anyone would like to go and then from there see if people want to continue going back, personally i think its great and id like to do this as often as i can. So if if you guys would like i will reserve a spot for sunday around 1ish? 3ish? the matches themselves are 30 min long or untill someoen *wins* and each slot is for like an hour and a half or an hour i dont remember, but when ur time slot is over it boots u out. If i set up a reservation we all have to be inside before it starts.

Brenner FTW

I definately would love a Brenner match clan wide.

Unst, if you could post some information on what people need to do for this, and what the details are (e.g., can we just pick a time? is it instanced? etc.) then I bet we could have a bongo Brenner event.

Vis Maior's Journeys
http://maior.samhart.net/

brenner

you dont need anythign for this just show up early, we had an issue where we came late to registration and wouldnt let us enter so I have to be there by whatever the time it starts to make it happen so that we dont miss it >_> other than that be early b/c otherwise it just cuts down on the time we have inside. We can only book it up to 2 days in advance so i guess its pretty on the spot :)
We can host one this ~sunday~ early after noon est, like 1-3 or something or sunday night just for ppl who are on and would like to go and then make an official one with a more publicized date, only bc id like to go as much as poosible >_> :) you all better love this as much as me >_> lol

Update: the official matches of brenner provide some exp we were getting 400-450 a match(times 3 matches in a session)= 1200-1350 exp, only in the official games though, not private.

Strategy

1. /quarry is CRUCIAL at the start of the match , make sure to do random /quarry's throughout the match.
2. take out mages first im a blm and i hate to say this but its a mistake to let BLU or BLM to live LOL :P
3. Take care of DDs like MNK next
4. depending on your situation, say if ur all along take out the Posten first then use quarried items like ether and potion to get stats back, then go for the flammen-brenner.
5. If there are 3 or more ppl at the brenner, kill brenner and ignore other players and the posten.(in this situation skip steps 2+3, but silence the BLU magic onry) not blm bc im a blm >_> ^^
6. click on brenner to recieve the flamme after the brenner is defeated.
7. run back to one of your unlit brenners and click on it (u will look like uve been hit with fire, only an animation ^^)! the brenner will burst in "flammes".hehehe...
8. Continue, remeber quarried items can make or break your team and that blu magic is extremly abnoxious as a blu can deal massive damage quickly so silence them at least!
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now, Smn's rule in brenner and im sure bst do also, a smn can take out a brenner on their own very quickly compared to toher jobs for me it takes a bit of time and i have a 50% chance of dieing to the posten itself >_>
ok, if you have blink or utsusemi keep it up, its also crucial!
aquaviel is great for blms since random interupts occur often!
also, u cannot sprint while in possesion of flamme.
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different types of brenner
(layout)talk to herald to change rules
A: large scale for 8+ ech a team i havnt done yet but would like to try(postens and brenners are harder to defeat)
B: 2 a team or more(postes r fairly hard to defeat(4 or 6 i cant rememebr, brenners a team)
C: do this is 1 or 2 a team( good bc theres only 2 or 4 brenners on a team) do this definatly if its 1v1 or postewn will be very hard to kill then the fact that the brenner has more hp!
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You get exp for Official matches ONRY :) so i like going to official matches when im available, ppl actually go to these unlike balista, i even made a JP friend who speeks no engrish but is now on my flist ^^
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ill continue this later the next match is about to start ^^

^_^

i lvld 51 in brenner so i <3 it even mroe now XD

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